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From: Beseder (
Subject: No pit so deep
Date: February 20, 2004 at 3:02 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: christian to nihilist? posted by Keith on February 20, 2004 at 8:41 am:

Hi Dave,

I think Keith gave you some good advice. When a person is feeling stuck in situations he doesn't know how to resolve which hurt, it can be very tough to understand the suffering he is going through. It can be easy to think that G-d must not really be there if He is allowing me to go through this amount of confusion and silence.

I am in my 40's, but I remember very well how it felt to be 17 and in a home where there was no emotional safety. I remember really wanting to know if G-d was there. I remember being aggravated that people acted like just going to church was all I needed. It wasn't.

I also didn't want to be a hypocrite or to believe anything that was a lie. I didn't want to take someone else's word for it-- I wanted a relationship with G-d if He was there-- I wanted my own relationship with G-d-- not someone else's.

I didn't want to see Him through several centuries of stained glass. My own life was too painful for me to have a bandaid. I needed the real thing-- not five cents worth.

I am an analytical person in several ways, and I needed to know that there were good reasons which stood up historically and scientifically for believing in G-d.

I found the resources that I needed, and I would be happy to recommend specific books to you if I knew better where your faith is being tested.

One of the best ones I could recommend is simply Corrie ten Boom's book, The Hiding Place . I was amazed and jealous about the depth of her confidence in G-d. On the other hand, she had a family which had been healthy and whole from the beginning, making it easier for her to see G-d as He is. She, together with several others from her family, went to a concentration camp as punishment by the Nazis for hiding the Jewish people and for arranging for safety for them. While she was in the concentration camp, her sister died. She saw death every day. Ashy flakes like snow fell from the sky, and there was the continual stench of burning flesh from the crematoria. In that environment, her faith was severely tested. She became consumed with hate at times. There were no words to express the horror she felt at the barbarity of the Nazis at Ravensbruck. And yet.. in the midst of that h@ll, she wrote that, "There is no pit that is so deep that G-d is not deeper still."

I have found the same thing to be true. Trusting in a Person you cannot see-- a Person who does not do things the way that we think He should at times-- is not easy. But I think I know resources, from C.S. Lewis to Ravi Zacharias to Josh McDowell to the Greek or Latin or Hebrew if you need it.

If you want to know G-d, then you can be sure that He is reaching out to you Himself. He is the Treasure in the field, worth more than is imaginable at this point, as a friend and source of truth and encourager.

You can write me if you would like to. As an English teacher (don't let that stop you from writing me-- :), I am familiar with the writings of Nihilists as well as Deists and Romantics and Existentialists and Realists. I can talk with you intelligently (by the grace of G-d) about what is positive and what is not so positive about the world views you might like to discuss with another person.

I am a believer in Yeshua (in Jesus), and I would be happy to help you sort out your questions and thoughts if you would like to have my support.

May the very best that was ever in G-d's heart for you come to pass.

Shalom to you,


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