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From: yvie (
Subject:         Re: Is John Robbins vegan?
Date: October 22, 2006 at 6:10 pm PST

In Reply to: Is John Robbins vegan? posted by Susan Schneeberger on October 18, 2006 at 8:44 am:

For myself, I'm glad that Robbins does not use the term vegan. That would narrow his influence, because while many people would consider cutting back on animal products, going "all the way" vegan would seem too intimidating and therefore they might not try at all.

A later post talks about the big guys--Campbell and Esseltyn eating wild fish once in a what? If these guys eat fish once or twice a month, does that ruin it for the vegan cause? Does it turn them into vegan sinners? In Campbell's book he put fish under the "minimize" category and not the "avoid" category. I think in some ways finding out that Campbell and Esseltyn may actually eat fish very occasionally may actually advance the cause. I can only use myself as an example.

About a year and a half ago, after reading "Diet for a New America", followed by "the China Study", I made the commitment to follow a plant based diet as much as I could. I was able to give up milk, meat, and poultry but had trouble giving up fish. My husband was supportive of me as well, which made my new diet a whole lot easier. I still consume a small amount of milk products in social situations where I would draw too much attention to myself if I didn't. If I tried to go completely vegan I'm sure I would give up and potentially go back to eating animal products on a regular basis. I'm pretty sure I would lose my husband's support and I would also isolate myself from my social circles, the very group I am currently influencing with my 95% plant based lifestyle. (Restaurants and people having us over for dinner often don't have a vegan option...)

I feel great, look great, am 45 yet have stamina beyond my wildest dreams. I'll stick to eating the occasional small serving of wild fish and use to make sure that the fish I eat is both sustainable and relatively mercury free. But most of the time, I'll eat plants, as John Robbins wisely recommends.

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