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Subject:         Re: starbright gives doug his permanent walking papers
Date: December 7, 2015 at 5:18 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: starbright gives doug his permanent walking papers posted by bravehearted on December 7, 2015 at 4:25 pm:

she trusted so much in '''authority figures''' that they were so infallible and uprighteous ethically moral and so when she was at retreat and asked the husband and wife who was there to tell grant to wait for her and two other retreaters to get changed out of their wet sandy soiled clothes after coming back from a beach day in which took less than 10 minutes tops, as grant was going to get a thai massage with other retreaters, he didn't wait and she thought it was because the husband and wife didn't tell him and blamed them but then realized it was grant again who just plainly ''''did not care''' from other similarities that happened/she was told of (and even directly confirmed from her friend that he just did not care when told out loud about this in a shouting angry voice from her friend) (from selfishness/conceitedness/ego/immaturity and or some other not good personality defects of grant) from the retreat after that one. she read all the similar incidents on this forum of them and did not believe defending them aggressively really believing in them to the end until it was done same to her as was done to them of all the testimonies of it on this forum. thank you jeff for giving us naÔve innocent victims (of mostly have been women) a voice to tell it here. god bless you jeff for being our strength/giving us the courage to speak the factual truths here.

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