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Subject:         Re: risk not= cause
Date: April 20, 2015 at 4:06 am PST

In Reply to: Re: risk not= cause posted by Dr Gosia O'Reilly on April 20, 2015 at 3:41 am:

Hey Gosia,

We can't just keep ignoring the mounting evidence and keep adding more criteria, first symptoms were needed(i gave that in hyperhomocysteinemia), now percentages aren't what you care for.

The percentages of which were used to mathematically define just how many vegans out of the group were deficient. Which was 78% of the group i.e the majority.

What would in your opinion be enough evidence that a vegan diet is associated with b12 deficiency ?

We have a mountain of evidence on the causal relationship between following a vegan diet and low b12 levels and deficiency.

We have a montain of evidence showing that hyperhomocysteinemia is a result of b12 deficiency and is found mostly in the high risk B12 deficient groups such as VEGANS.

You wanted proof of actual symptoms i gave that with hyperhomocysteinemia.

You wanted proof of a causal relationship between eating a vegan diet and low B12 levels/deficiency, again the studies i linked in the thread on my site all prove that once again.

If we can't even agree on these basic findings, then i agree we have unfortunately exhausted the debate once again.

If i can't convince you with the above multiple quality and relevant studies that vegans are one of the most at risk groups of developing B12 deficiency and hyperhomocysteinemia, then i doubt i will ever manage.

If you haven't read the research thats on my site thread i linked, then i think you will be in for a shock.

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