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Subject:         Re: My Zinc and Copper yesterday
Date: January 5, 2015 at 3:14 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: My Zinc and Copper yesterday posted by The Sproutarian on January 5, 2015 at 2:39 pm:

Im not sure what you mean by the chromium idea, all i suggested was that excess iron can lower chromium.

Or that excess chromium can compete with iron absorption, but isn't common at all outwith those who use excessive dosages of chromium supplements.

Its amazing the antagonistic effect and relationships between minerals.

Ive always said that the science tells us that in order to get the health benefits that plant foods have to offer, a high/majority plant based diet suffices, although it still needs to be nutritionally balanced and complete in order to be healthy, something a vegan diet isn't from the beginning when it can't even provide basic nutrients such as vitamin B12, D etc.

No studies show that going that little bit extra restrictive with vegan/strict plant based offers any additional benefit. In fact the science shows doing so opens us up to developing lots of serious nutrient deficiencies.

If vegans were honest and reviewed the bulk of the science on veganism, the majority isn't actually positive at all from all the common nutrient deficiencies such as vitamin b12 to the issues such as increased homocysteine.

Again i need reminded here what the benefit of going vegan actually is here ?, especially when i can get all the health benefits plant foods have to offer by eating a high plant based diet without risking my health developing so many nutritional deficiencies like vitamin b12, d, omega-3 dha, taurine, carnitine and so on that effects so many vegans.

Much of the notion to go vegan and especially raw vegan is just complete pseudo-scientific recommendations from "gurus" like Gabriel Cousens or Brian Clement, Doug etc.

In fact there is little to no science recommending or validating the safety of strict raw vegan diets, let alone the mythical health benefits. That doesn't invalidate the diet, but we have enough research on vegan diets to know that they share the same common nutritional issues, in fact raw vegans are at an increased risk due to eliminating even more food groups from the diet than most typical vegetarians or vegans do.

Its a disaster waiting to happen for most.

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