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Subject:         Re: My Zinc and Copper yesterday
Date: January 5, 2015 at 5:55 am PST

In Reply to: Re: My Zinc and Copper yesterday posted by The Sproutarian on January 5, 2015 at 5:29 am:

Bio-chemical individuality when it comes to diet is something that vegans and the gurus tend to never take into consideration.

This is why believing that a set diet of X whether its 80/10/10 or sproutarian can work for everybody is never going to work. Its just not practical, let alone before we get down to the nutrition side of it.

One of the bio-chemical defects that relates to vegans is kryptopyrrole disorder or pyroluria as its known. Which is why many naturally gravitate to a low protein/low zinc vegan diet in the first place.

However these individuals are already extremely deficient in zinc due to pyrroles binding it up. So when they follow a vegan diet, they become even more copper/zinc imbalanced.

This is why the vegan diet is terrible for these type of individuals and as we are seeing on the living food forum, people can lose their minds completely. Copper toxicity after all can cause schizophrenia symptoms and intense paranoia, anxiety etc.

There is no bio-chemical consideration when it comes to diet from most of these vegan dieticians and i don't believe we can supplement our way out of it, because historically we've seen that doesn't work either in the long term for most.

Strict raw vegan diets work for so few individuals, that im don't think im wrong in my thoughts.

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