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Subject:         Re: My Zinc and Copper yesterday + fairytale ideas on nutrition
Date: November 12, 2014 at 4:45 am PST

In Reply to: Re: My Zinc and Copper yesterday + fairytale ideas on nutrition posted by The Sproutarian on November 12, 2014 at 4:02 am:

Hey TSM, you bring up another common mineral imbalance that relates to raw vegan diets, which is potassium/sodium balance.

The 80/10/10 diet is typically very high in potassium, whilst being extremely low in sodium. Excess potassium has a diuretic effect, and naturally displaces sodium, so you only further increase your sodium needs. Slightly higher potassium intake can be good to maintain healthy blood pressure, but only if you are getting adequate amounts of sodium.

Low sodium diets are just as problematic as high sodium. Many vegans will point out that celery is a decent source of organic sodium, but most will not eat enough sodium rich vegetables daily to obtain enough sodium.

There are certain health conditions such as adrenal fatigue, where individuals have increased an need for sodium, due to lowered levels of an adrenal hormone called aldosterone, which hinders the bodies ability to retain sodium.

This is another reason why many with adrenal fatigue do so poorly on high potassium diets such as 80/10/10. Although the low protein, high amounts of simple sugars, lack of cholesterol(vital pre-cursor to the production of adrenal steroid hormones) and low amount of zinc/high copper are all factors why 80/10/10 is a terrible diet for those with adrenal fatigue. I used to get messages every week on the living food forum from people who had crashed their adrenal glands following Doug Graham's diet advice of 80/10/10 and long term water fasting.

The anti-salt recommendation from the likes of Doug Graham is not justified and potentially dangerous, especially coupled with intensive exercise regimes, where you are losing electrolytes. All forms of salt are not equal, table salt i will agree is refined junk food and potentially detrimental to health. However unrefined trace element rich salts such as himalayan or celtic sea salt are perfectly healthy for most individuals.

We see the low sodium/no salt recommendation doesn't work well for most, as we see its not long before these raw foodists either go back to adding some form of salt to their diet or start consuming sodium rich cooked processed foods again, in order to obtain more sodium.

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