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From: temp (
Subject:         Re: John Kohler isn't vegan
Date: October 7, 2014 at 5:59 am PST

In Reply to: in other words, you are claiming they are lying. got it. posted by gary on October 6, 2014 at 7:23 pm:

No, its just that many of your examples don't actually claim to be 100% raw vegan, they might like yourself promote that "100% raw vegan diet is best" but like you are flakey in making any real definitive statements about how strict they really are or putting up a sample diet for all of us to see. Or do i need to pay them 4k for some diet coaching to learn lol.

Many of these people claim to be eating raw vegan for the majority of the time, fair enough but what is the remaining portion of their diet, is it animal foods again like yourself and many others ?

If so then these people can not be held up as examples of strict raw vegans Gary. Vegans don't eat animal foods however infrequent, i can't seem to get this through to you. Which is why we have such a legion of part time vegans like yourself.

As far as im aware John Kohler is bee-gan i.e he eats bee food such as honey and bee pollen. Do your research Gary before recommending individuals as examples of strict veganism. Pretty sure ive seen his videos where he says he even eats some cooked and higher fat than 80/10/10.

You said these people are "probably" vegan,, you don't know any of these people personally thats the point. You have virtually no idea what they are eating other than reading their posts or watching their 10 minute videos.

But you speak about these people as if you can vouch for their authenticity personally. It would be hilarious if you weren't so convinced like every other true believer.

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