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From: Gina (
Subject:         Re: Query for Gina…Bigu
Date: October 2, 2014 at 1:19 pm PST

In Reply to: Query for Gina… posted by John Rose on October 2, 2014 at 9:30 am:

Hi John,

When you say hello in Chinese, you say Ni-hao, which literally means "you good." But really you are just saying hello. In Chinese bi-gu may mean avoidance of grains, but what it really means is fasting.

Bigu means to fast. Among all cultures, people have their own ideas what it means to fast.

My chinese qigong teacher has strictly laid down the definition among spiritual cultivators (since you mention the Daoists): complete abstention from food and drink, including inedia. China has a long history and there are stories of cultivators who have entered a cave to meditate for long periods. They practice Bigu, because there is no source of food or drink of any kind for them, nor is there any help for them. Look at the Buddha Boy (Maha sambodhi dharma sangha) who did not eat or drink for 10 months, sitting under that big tree. Then there is the famous story of the first patriarch of Zen buddhism, who came from India to China...Boddhidharma. He sat facing a wall for 9 years. Some people speculate that he ate, but others hold true to the story that he did not eat because he didn't move. He just sat in trance meditation. When You look at the buddha boy and the documentary, they filmed him continuously for 4 days straight and he did not move and did not eat and obviously he did not excrete. That is the real Bigu. It is only used among real cultivators and it is not meant to be used for lay people. It also makes sense for meditators who are able to slow their heart rates and metabolism down and to diminish the need for food.

Genesis Sunfire says many blasphemous things about religion and spirituality and calls everything a lie. But then he says he is a mere mortal and loses his teeth. Then we also hear him saying how he uses salt water flushes, uses herbal medicine like Chaga mushrooms and people see him drink fruit juice. That is not real Bigu. I really like Genesis a lot--bottom line is that he is a sweet guy--and would love to meet him someday. Eyewitnesses say he can live food-free longer than the average person by a big degree, but they still see him drink juice in secret sometimes.

The bottom line is that when true Bigu is discussed in spiritual circles, there is an understanding that a very real energy will be supporting these people. This energy will be different depending on the cultivator, whether he is daoist, buddhist or christian...but there is an alternative energy to food.

I am not encouraging anyone to seek such things out, because we see what disasters fasting brings to the average person. I am merely answering John Rose's question. For every superman, like Genesis Sunfire, we hear of a copy cat who goes out to the woods and romantically starves themselves to death. Poor Harley's roommate also starved herself to death, and that is why Harley is so outspoken about fasting dangers, not to mention the metabolic damage he has seen after water fasting.

I think Brian Clement's advice about fasting is wise. He "fasts" one day a week on juices, including a lot of green juices. Every seven years, Brian will have fasted for one entire year on vegetable and green juices.

My personal opinion is that the real Bigu should be left to highly specialized spiritual practitioners. (Genesis sunfire does not even qualify yet to be a teacher because 1) he is not food-free yet 2) he keeps lying and breaking the precept about truthfulness. 3) he has not conquered carnal desire.)

Lay people, like Doug Graham, should stick to medical fasting, which should be done under medical supervision...and it should not only include blood tests but also nursing supervision. How crazy is it to let fasters walk alone unsupervised and fall and hit their heads?

If you are not Jesus, then don't pretend you are.

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