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Subject:         Re: Revisiting Fred Patenaude's article "The Death of the Raw Food Diet"
Date: September 28, 2014 at 6:02 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: Revisiting Fred Patenaude's article posted by Paul on September 28, 2014 at 4:36 pm:

>You're either failing to see the larger picture
or just haven't mentioned it (or don't want to)

Paul eventually returned to raw vegan. I don't know
what the Boutenkos are doing nowadays. Other raw vegan
gurus have moved away from 100% raw, Fred Patenaude,
Matt Monarch, Kevin Gianni; they have not returned to
100% raw. John Kohler recommends high raw but does not
push 100% raw like some gurus.

The "larger picture" is the implosion of the 100% raw
vegan community, with the low fat or high carb faction
being reduced to almost no followers by the defection
of many former 100% raw followers to "raw till 4" or
raw+cooked. If raw + cooked works better for those
people, and there is reason to think that it will work
better than 100% raw, then that is good. From that
viewpoint, the strict 100% raw vegan diet is indeed

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