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From: The Sproutarian (
Subject:         Re: Here is a video with Doug Grahm and his little boy Harley
Date: September 5, 2014 at 9:01 pm PST

In Reply to: Here is a video with Doug Grahm and his little boy Harley posted by mic on September 5, 2014 at 10:38 am:

D.R and Chris sure look in awe of their hero Dr
Doug. So cute. *said in good spirits with a loving

I shall leave all you to this thread and just lurk
the Dr Goug drama silently again. Looks ole Dr Doug
is going to be getting some karma come his way, so
lets hope he grows up and becomes more responsible
with his leadership.

Many raw food leaders are now losing credibility.
You cannot bluff people anymore like the old days
because the internet will catch you out now. I am
hoping the internet will now make raw gurus become
more responible, less self focussed, much better
studied and much more professional. We need to
develop honour and be able to trust people, and
hopefully this will happen in the next decade or two
as we continue to grow, learn and hopefully become

I think the tired is changing. Raw food leaders are
being taken down, people are becoming smarter and
more aware of the nonsense spoken about in the raw
movement and l think a new wave will occur when the
movement becomes much stronger and smarter than it
has been. The movement has been like an infant
trying to tread water and we have been a laughing
stock and sinking, but l don't believe it has to be
that way anymore.

We want to become well studied, ditch the
pseudoscience, be responsible, open our minds, care
for people and behave honourably. If we do this we
can give the face of the raw vegan movement a good
image instead of the circus show of baloney talk
that it currently is. It's time for good leadership
and people are becoming more aware of the changes
needed, but now it's time to use common sense and
read the peer reviewed research every single day.

One last word of wisdom = we are not going to be
right all the time so don't be afraid to admit
mistakes as a raw food leader. People respect that
quality, and when people know they can trust you you
will be a shining example of inspiration for other
people to want to be like that too. This respect
needs to be earned by high quality integrity. You
may think your lies will bluff people but karma will
likely catch you out, so do the right thing and
become loved and respected by many. Good reputations
are great things to have, so lets start developing

Regards brothers and sisters,

The Sproutarian

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