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From: driveby (
Subject:         Re: Doug Graham, VegSource, Threats of Lawsuits
Date: August 21, 2014 at 8:59 pm PST

In Reply to: Doug Graham, VegSource, Threats of Lawsuits posted by Jeff on August 21, 2014 at 5:18 pm:

Jeff - thanks for taking morally correct action and
stripping Graham of his censorship abilities. Your
site has a negative image in parts of the raw
community, precisely because of the heavy-handed
censorship by Graham -- censorship that Graham
repeatedly and falsely attributed to you.

Regarding the threats of defamation: there was a
controversy in the past on this board and it spread
to other boards as well. A 3rd party was claiming
that discussion of Graham's past misdeeds was
defamatory and saying that people could be sued.
That person was ignored and there were no lawsuits.
(I can't prove that Graham was behind the threats,
but I have personal experience that makes me
believe it is possible.) Needless to say, that
discussion thread was deleted by Graham or his

By the way, since you are in California, you are
under the additional legal protection of what may be
the strongest anti-slapp law in the nation. Anti-
slapp laws are designed to protect people from bogus
defamation lawsuits, and the real purpose of such
lawsuits is to suppress free & public discussion [in
this case, discussion of the dishonesty and
misconduct of Douglas Graham]. If Graham was
actually stupid enough to sue you or others, he
would face an anti-slapp motion to dismiss - and it
would be ultra-expensive for him to defeat such a
motion. He might even end up paying the attorney's
fees of the people he sued.

In California court cases, my information is that a
bond is sometimes required. Since Graham was
arrested for money laundering AND he skipped court
and lost the bail, that suggests he might have to
post a large cash bond as well. (I'm no expert on
this - consult a lawyer if you need one.)

So in my opinion, the risk of Graham actually suing
someone is very small. If such a case came to trial,
he would have to produce his records and answer
tough questions under oath. Meanwhile, his modus
operandi is to avoid discussing these topics and
trying to find newbies he can convince to pay $8-11K
to fast for a month. I agree with you Jeff - those
folks would be way better off at True North.

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