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From: Jon Fergus (
Subject:         Re: Doug Graham, VegSource, Threats of Lawsuits
Date: August 21, 2014 at 8:28 pm PST

In Reply to: Doug Graham, VegSource, Threats of Lawsuits posted by Jeff on August 21, 2014 at 5:18 pm:

"an episode of some type"?? Really? He doesn't even know *why* she died? Doesn't know what the episode was? Isn't he supposedly a "doctor" and a health-expert? Someone dies as a result of something at his retreat and he's this casual about how and why!? Wow.

The explanation there is very chilling to me. I mean, it's so matter-of-fact, so obviously devoid of any emotional quality. It's basically "ya, she fasted, lived for a week then died, meh." If I had been medically supervising someone who died like that, I'd hardly be talking about it with such evident nonchalantness. I'd hardly be telling people about the "lovely service". I'd be telling them how I spent a week in the hospital not-sleeping, how incredibly difficult it was and is to have someone die on my watch, how it made me question whether or not I'm doing everything I can to assure people's safety at my retreat, how every day I question whether I couldn't done something differently, etc., etc.

The way this is spoken of here, it sounds like the description a psychopath would give to a court.

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