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Subject:         Missing Soy? - Try Ann Esselstyn's recipes
Date: August 1, 2009 at 1:10 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: soy beans posted by Mark on July 9, 2009 at 1:12 pm:

If you have only been on the diet three months (guessing), missing fats is natural. Yours truly started in '06 and ate
three ounces of salmon every two weeks, based on my 'guesstimating', from Dr. E's paper on heart disease reversal,
for omega-3, which was _wrong_. When his book came out in '07 with "This little bit certainly _can_ hurt you", realised
that was a mistake and stopped. By which time it was easy to do so. Omega-3's from ground flax seed recommended

Result? Actually living entirely off Ann Esselstyn's recipes, discovered that they were _much_ more satisfying than
previous SAD diet AND more satisfying than Ornish's AND McDougall's recipes.

Dr. John McDougall in his several books explains that we think we crave fat, but what we really crave are starches.
Eating entirely from Ann Esselstyn's recipes, can say that that is one hundred percent correct.

There are a lot of 'comfort foods'; thick soups with lentils and vegetables, baked onions -- ambrosia of the Gods --
brown rice, beans - various, etc.; the two Antonia Demas recipes are particularly good. Terrific food.

If you miss soy beans, your life will be transformed when you discover her no-oil, no-tahini hummus recipe. A legal
'fatty food' (in moderation). Plus, you can throw cooked chickpeas into any dish to get a similar 'fatty' addition as
adding soy beans gives.

If you are the same Mark who asked about survivors on 4/13/09 -

The answer there was twenty years and counting, i.e. heart disease becomes _no_factor_ in longevity IF you stick to the
Esselstyn diet 100%. Including for those with stents and bypasses, from reading Esselstyn.

When the hunter sees the tiger, the tiger has seen the hunter one hundred times. Having been face to face with the
tiger of heart disease we can say that there is something to be said for knowing which particular tiger is going to get
you. But if you follow the Esselstyn diet, you face the fact that some other tiger _is_ going to get you and you can no
longer see it. But it _is_ out there.

The heart disease tiger is _gone_. But tigers are real. Which is the only explanation I have for why some people, even
those with serious heart disease, can hear all about the guaranteed 'heart-attack proof' Esselstyn diet -- in about
three weeks -- and pay not a blind bit of notice to it. They choose to stick with the tiger that they saw face to face,
perhaps because it is less frightening that way.

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