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From: EV (
Subject:         Re: HDL
Date: March 11, 2009 at 6:20 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: HDL posted by c on March 10, 2009 at 9:42 pm:

McDougall actually has an article on his site in the Hot Topics section
that talks about HDL, and he makes the case that low HDL isn't worth
your attention if you can get the other numbers down. There are
citations with the article. I believe that Esselstyn and others also point
to several societies around the world where the average hdl is in the
20's, and yet they have virtually no heart disease, presumably because
their other cholesterol numbers are so low.

I care about this too since my hdl dropped into the 30's as my total
dropped to 87 on this program. I think it's going to be extremely
difficult to find any studies other than Ornish's or Esselstyn that
provide any long-term verification of the claims that low hdl doesn't
matter with this diet, but those aren't bad citations in and of
themselves. I believe both Ornish and Esselstyn saw low hdl across
most of their patients, and yet their results speak for themselves. For
now, that's enough for me.

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