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Subject:         Re: HDL
Date: March 10, 2009 at 5:37 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: HDL posted by Dr. Neal Pinckney on March 9, 2009 at 2:12 am:

Thank you for your reply and the reference to the journal article. I haven't had time to read it yet, so I will save my comments until after I've read it.

With that said, I once asked Dr. Essylsten about this after one of his presentations, and I remember him saying that having low HDL even when total cholesterol is low is not an ideal situation.

As far as I know, Dr. Ornish is the only one saying this. I haven't heard Essylstein saying it, and I don't hear McDougall saying it. Also, there is a lack of evidence in peer-reviewed journals. I can't understand how Ornish can simply make this claim when he doesn't have any (or much) scientific evidence to back it up.

I did skim over the abstract of the study that you directed me to. Seems like this is a situation where the HDL is low due to a genetic anomoly. I'm hesitant to extrapolate and say that HDL is not protective based on this ONE study with a Caucasian population whose HDL is low due to genetic reasons.

I follow a vegan lifestyle, so I do believe that it is a healthy way to eat. However, I am also a proponent of solid science, and I don't think it is responsible to say something when there isn't solid research backing it up.

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