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From: Qualera (
Subject: Re: Posting this a second time to be sure it's seen. Sorry.
Date: April 2, 2002 at 8:10 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: Posting this a second time to be sure it's seen. Sorry. posted by Matt on April 2, 2002 at 4:23 pm:

What do I do... well I do eat sugar. I just buy beet sugar when I use refined sugar because its never refined with bone char. I don't buy the refined cane sugar because it sometimes is, depending on the company. I have a soda maybe once or twice a week. My favorites are Mountain Dew Code Red and also Root Beer. I do buy strawberry unfrosted poptarts sometimes because as best I could tell they were vegan. My husband gets at least 1 or 2 bags of chips when we go to the store. His favorite is Yukon Gold Salt and Vinegar. We buy Ore-Ida fries to go with our veggie burgers.

I don't buy mainstream commercial cereals because I think both Post and General Mills use vitamin D3 for their vitamin D. D2 is the vegetarian one. D3 comes for lanolin from sheeps wool, or other animal sources. I did call Post myself about the vitamin D, I saw someone else mention General Mills. We have been substituting Clif Bars and Luna Bars in place of breakfast cereal, but that gets expensive. I often make vegan breakfast burritos, eat grits with nutritional yeast intead of cheese, or buy granola made without honey from the health food store.

We really don't eat a whole lot of junk food all things considered, but I am not opposed to it in moderation. I've heard many vegans say that you can be vegan eating nothing but potato chips and toffuti ice cream, of course you'd be a very unhealthy one. So mostly I think there is agreement that junk food can be vegan.

The best way to avoid most of the hidden animal ingredients is to cook from scratch, but thats not always practical for everyone. It really does get easier as you go. Once I have checked a label I tend to remember which ones were vegan for future reference. I know which ramen noodles are vegan, which chili beans, which veggie burger patties (and gardenburger riblets which are totally delicious), etc. The only problem is if a company changes ingredients on you, so maybe recheck occasionally.

If you are needing a direct replacement for beef/ground beef/chicken etc I get Beef-Not (strips or ground) and Chicken-Not (chunks) made by Dixie Diners Club. They are like $4.50 a package at my health food store and they make about 4 lbs of substitute. You can also order them online. I make chili, taco meat, fajitas, soups and other things with them. I find when you are first starting out, it helps to have things that you are familiar with. I also make seitan from vital wheat gluten and use that in lots of recipes.

Hope I didn't overwhelm you with information, just want you to know there are tons of options. Its really easy to get discouraged when you are faced with all these choices and unfamiliar ingredients. If there's anything else you'd like me to ramble on about, just ask. Or you can e-mail me. - Q

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