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From: Gina (108.13.237.251)
Subject:         Re: Severe ketoacidosis secondary to starvation in a frutarian patient.
Date: September 10, 2015 at 12:33 pm PST

In Reply to: Severe ketoacidosis secondary to starvation in a frutarian patient. posted by temp on July 13, 2015 at 9:15 am:

This paper was about a man who was fasting for one week before being admitted to the hospital. He was a strict fruitarian before the fast, which is defined here as not eating any vegetables (and likely leafy greens), likely what Ann Osborne eats.

Temp, you cannot really compare a strict fruitarian diet with a raw vegan diet, in terms of nutrition, despite the fact that they may both be raw and vegan. A raw vegan diet can be very mineral and protein-rich or it can be very deficient.

quote from the paper:
"Frugivores do not eat any animal or plant derived products, in order to avoid interrupting the natural life cycle of animals and plants."

My one comment about this is that many plants lose their leaves anyway. Picking a plants' leaves is pretty harmless compared to uprooting the whole plant. Let's take the example of collards, which I grow. They are like mini trees. The leaves will die and fall off, if you don't pick them. Picking the leaves does not hurt the plant. But even when you are growing a garden, you have to weed the garden. Even when you are growing trees, you still have to weed.

At the same time, there are some very sentient plants that have strong feelings and they should be handled gingerly. Other than trees, of course, is cactus. I eat cactus, but I still respect it. If I didn't control the cactus, it would grow everywhere. But when I pick it to transplant it, I break it at the nodes where it is meant to break to cause the least pain. The leaves would break off eventually anyway due to the weight, so it's not like human intervention is doing something that would not happen anyway.

When a plant grows out of control, and it is edible, why not eat it versus composting it? I just don't grasp this strict fruitarian mindset. Not to mention that bitter and sour in the plant kingdom are very medicinal.

Root vegetables are a whole other story. But for fruitarians to avoid even eating any leaves which die anyway is beyond extreme. Chewing greens can clean your teeth and provide minerals and protein and medicinal compounds.

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