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Subject:         Re: iron-level
Date: August 21, 2015 at 7:30 am PST

In Reply to: Re: iron-level posted by Paul on August 20, 2015 at 7:52 pm:

Well we already know that the diet that the OP is eating is most likely insufficient in providing a number of key basic essential nutrients because they said they had just been mainly living off fruit and greens.

No matter how much fruit and greens you consume, it will never equate to a nutritionally balanced diet that supplies all the basic essential nutrients we need to be healthy.

Answer one question Paul, do you actually believe that a diet of just fruits and greens can provide all the nutrients we need to stay healthy ? If not then why are you not speaking up that such way of eating is dangerous ? You are obviously in agreement that such 30BAD/80/10/10 raw vegan style diet provides all the nutrients we need and is healthy. If this is the case its about time you started posting some scientific evidence that such raw vegan diets are safe, let alone healthy.

We know fine well from the mountain of nutritional science that raw vegan diets are dangerous and prone to serious nutritional deficiencies.

For example Vitamin b12 and vitamin D wouldn't be supplied at all by such diet, so for starters your going to need to most likely supplement with these as basic or introduce vegan fortified foods into your diet, these two deficiencies can be life-threatening.

Iron would most likely be low as the OP is already experiencing, as would the mienrals zinc, calcium and selenium because no nuts/seeds are being consumed. Thats before we even get to fats such as omega-3(DHA) which again on such diet you wouldn't be consuming enough omega-3(ALA) rich foods to convert to DHA, which is thought to be limited in conversion rates anyway. The rest of the diet is pretty much void of any fat source, unless one is eating durian or classing coconut as fruit.

Iodine would be another problem because its only land plant food sources being consumed, which don't contain much if any iodine, certainly not enough to satisfy the daily RDA, which is only enough to prevent goiter. Because raw foodists eat their foods raw, they often get higher levels of goitrogenic substances, which interfere with the thyroids ability to uptake iodine. This can be a problem if you are already consuming an iodine deficient diet such as raw vegan. (Sea vegetables are a good vegan plant source of iodine and other hard to obtain trace-elements)

We have seen countless times how the fruit/greens/low overt fats 30 banana's a day/80/10/10 style diet has failed pretty much 99% of the people who have tried it, including the majority of the gurus/promoters.

When you remove that many food groups from your diet, even healthy plant foods, you open yourself up to developing many serious nutritional deficiencies.

To Jane, there are many free nutritional calculator applications on the internet such as fitday or even the cronometer. You can punch in what food you are eating and it will show you if it provides all the daily nutrients you need. Tracking your nutritional information becomes essential when you start playing around with these expiremental and largely scientifically unvalidated diets.

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