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From: el-bo (
Subject:         Re: The Ultimate Solution - Part 1
Date: April 9, 2015 at 4:56 am PST

In Reply to: Re: The Ultimate Solution - Part 1 posted by BJ on April 9, 2015 at 3:04 am:

>> "At some point even the handful of 100% raw foodists need to
realise that it's better for the planet as a whole to get 80 - 90% of the
people onside by not being so extreme and improving the world, as
opposed to turning everyone off with what you have to say"

it's the same with vegans. 100% compliance turns away more than it
convinces. better to educate people on making reductions in animal
products, and improving conditions for animals

the problem is that for many extremists it becomes their raison d'etre,
and it is how they define and distinguish themselves

i'm not making a judgment against vegans, nor raw-foodists, but we
have seen how all these heels getting dug in just result in
marginalisation. animal suffering could be reduced dramatically if the
vegan movement looked on victories (however minimal) as better than

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