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Subject:         Re: Fully Raw Christina - questionable blood results? + other issues to consider
Date: October 2, 2014 at 5:33 pm PST

In Reply to: Re: Fully Raw Christina - questionable blood results? posted by temp on October 2, 2014 at 2:59 am: is something to think about. Here are two studies below which gives pause for serious thought in relation to raised non fasting triglycerides, these two studies were brought to my attention from a friend.

First there is a study that suggests that high non fasting triglycerides is still a potential problem for heart disease. Christina is presumably eating fruit much of the time,and it is likely her triglycerides are going to be high much of the time, so differing between fasting or non fasting triglycerides may not necessarily be overly important because non fasting triglycerides could be the real issue as the study below pionts out.

Relation of triglyceride levels, fasting and nonfasting, to fatal and nonfatal coronary heart disease

Now...people may argue that the low fat diet will compensate for this, but lets not brush things over too much. Vegans are at lower risk of heart attack, none-the-less they are not immune from them when they open themselves to certain risk factors such as high homocysteine and very low total cholesterol and HDL, and now we see triglycerides that are likely at high levels most of the time. Given the high non fasting triglycerides (assumed to be high most of the time) and the low total and HDL cholesterol, it may not paint such a good is bringing increased risk factors into the overall equation.

Then there is this study...we have the issue of low HDL being an independent risk factor for coronary heart disease. NOW...despite this only being a small study, the real problem is that HDL levels may even drop further after menopause and further increase risk of coronary heart disease and put further strain on lipid transportation throughout the body.

Effect of menopause on serum HDL-cholesterol level

See...we want to reduce risk factors, but this type of diet appears to be not managing these risk factors as well as they could be. My intuition is often very good, and it says these results are not as fine as they are made out to be.

The good news is that diets can be changed. I say to Christina to see a few different doctors and get their opinions also.

I know of one person who is a vegan on roughly a 70% fat diet and reports much better blood work than Christina's high fruit low fat diet.

I am not saying l am right or wrong. I am saying we want to better manage risk factors, and this 80-10-10 diet does not appear to be an ideal way for managing risk factors. We want to feed the body properly and get things in good balance so blood work looks less questionable.

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