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From: John Rose (107.136.181.36)
Subject:         Re: THE HISTORY AND FUTURE OF VEGANISM...
Date: October 2, 2014 at 9:28 am PST

In Reply to: THE HISTORY AND FUTURE OF VEGANISM... posted by John Rose on October 2, 2014 at 7:47 am:

Here is part of my Post that explains why most Natural Hygienists, like Doug and Loren and Jonas, understand the Science, but they do NOT understand the Art and why most people like temp or even Gina understand part of the Art, but they do NOT understand very much of or any of the Science.

By the way, Gina, I’ve been meaning to ask you if you have ever read "The Tao of Health, Sex, & Longevity" by Daniel P. Reid where he explains that the ancient Taoists knew NOT to COOK our Food and NOT to Eat Grains. I’ll start a separate Thread to make sure you see this.

Once again, this part of my Post explains why so many people just don’t get how simple all of this is once we see that we have 2 Groups of Needs we must Satisfy…

http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/100048876.html
From: John Rose (68.93.65.58)
Subject: The FLAWS in Natural Hygiene!!!!!!
Date: August 31, 2014 at 6:46 am PST

The Science has to do with the Knowledge of How to Live where we must Satisfy 12 Initial Essential Needs, thereby, Removing the Primary Causes and the Art has to do with the Knowledge of How to Adapt where we must Satisfy 2 Additional Temporary Needs, thereby, Dealing with the Subsequent Causes, as well as the Subsequent Needs.

The Science has to do with the Oneness of Disease based on our Anatomical Limitations given to us at birth and the Art has to do with the Uniqueness of Disease based on the Anatomical Limitations from making Mistakes that have Damaged our Bodies.

In other words, Doug, like most Natural Hygienists, understand the Law of Cause & Effect and that’s where our Species Specific Diet comes into play, but Doug, like most Natural Hygienists, do NOT understand the Ripple Effect or they do NOT understand that we have 2 Groups of Needs we must Satisfy.

So the problem that most people have is that they use the Art without using the Science (and we must NEVER use the Art without using the Science, which is why most Natural Hygienists do NOT believe in using Herbs or Enemas, for example) and the problem that most Natural Hygienists have is that they use the Science without using the Art. In most cases, we do NOT have to use the Art, but when we do NOT see results by Removing the Primary Causes, i.e. by Applying the Science, it’s because of the Damage we’ve done to our Anatomy and the Environment and now, we have another Group of Needs we must Satisfy, i.e. we must recognize the Art.

Once again, Doug simply does NOT understand the Art. But no one understands the Art well enough not to make some Mistakes. The problem with Doug is that he doesn’t understand any of the Art and therefore, makes more Mistakes than most and in the process, alienates everyone else because he constantly makes Blanket Statements that clearly show Doug has NOT done his homework and in the process, is giving Natural Hygiene a black eye, just like Jonas is giving Natural Hygiene a black eye. None of these FOOLS understand that we can Screw Up the Law of Cause & Effect. They’re arrogant because most people don’t know or have the Right Knowledge to Apply the Law of Cause & Effect and then, put their Protocol as #1. They only use the Art and they don’t use the Science. Doug only uses the Science and Not the Art.

So in both cases, they’re both Wrong - they’re both Incomplete. We should NEVER use the Art without the Science and when we use the Science, sometimes we have to use the Art.

Yes, Doug understands that Knowledge of Habits or Knowledge of How to Live is more important than all of the other Knowledge combined and that most people don’t have this Knowledge, but Doug doesn’t understand the Knowledge of How to Adapt. And although Doug gives lip service to “Modifying our Needs based on the Individual’s Condition” he lacks sufficient Knowledge to do what he claims he does. Even Shelton pointed out that our Needs Change as Conditions Change, but neither one of these FOOLS did their homework to understand that we have 2 Groups of Needs that we must Satisfy.
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