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From: Randall (
Subject:         Re: Revisiting Fred Patenaude's article
Date: September 28, 2014 at 8:39 pm PST

In Reply to: Revisiting Fred Patenaude's article posted by visitor on September 28, 2014 at 9:45 am:

I remember that article. Other than the outdated information about Paul Nison, it was interesting.

My thoughts are: if there is a death, it's because of all the senseless bickering in the movement and the expectation that anyone who speaks about their diet should be perfect and 100% consistent. Also, because of judgments arrived at from partial information and posted authoritatively as if everything is known. Sadly, no one of us is perfect. But to discard everything because of one thing is senseless. This all-or-nothing mentality, the ridiculous nit-picking microscope on every word and the self-righteous arguing for the sake of winning instead of finding the truth turned me away from speaking out about it.
(I was very active on this board years ago and helped with Appendix B of the 80 10 10 book. I stopped speaking out after realizing the help I could offer and the fellowship with like-minded people wasn't worth the stress of dealing with all the haters, disbelievers and arguers.)

Just skimming the first post of this forum affirms that there is rampant arguing from many sick people trying to destroy one person while jockeying themselves like barracudas into ego-boosting positions of knowledgeable respect.

That said, myself and many others band together under the radar and live our lives in peace. In that sense, be assured, the raw food diet, or "eating," as I call it, is quite alive and well. More than that, 80 10 10 lifestyle will never die; it's stronger than mass attacks from ignorant haters.

May we all find peace, love, forgiveness and respect. Anything else is as unhealthy as a bacon cheeseburger.


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