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From: TSS ()
Subject: Re: Mad cow disease found in Russia near the EU border
Date: October 19, 2006 at 8:23 am PST

In Reply to: Re: Mad cow disease found in Russia near the EU border posted by TSS on October 17, 2006 at 12:49 pm:

Greetings,

someone kindly corrected this for me ;

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The original Russian language text reads "rabies"
(beshenstvo). Mad cow disease is a mistranslating
by an inexperienced translator.

Unfortunately the erroneous translation "mad cow
disease has been picked up by at least one other
English language news agencies in Russia.

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So, it may be rabies and or a case of mad cow, i don't know,
and may never know. just thought i should clarify this. ...

TSS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Mad cow disease found in Russia near the EU border (two people who had contact with the animal have received vaccinations ???)

##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #####################

Subject: Mad cow disease found in Russia near the EU border
Date: October 17, 2006 at 12:23 pm PST

Mad cow disease found in Russia near the EU border

Time is GMT + 8 hours
Posted: 18-Oct-2006 02:00 hrs

Cows are seen in a truck during transport. A case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) or mad cow disease has been discovered in the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad between Poland and Lithuania, the Federal Control Service for Consumer Rights said.

A case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) or mad cow disease has been discovered in the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad between Poland and Lithuania, the Federal Control Service for Consumer Rights said.

"A case of mad cow disease was detected in the town of Razdolnoye in the Nesterovski region," near the Lithuanian border, it said in a press release.

"The two people who had contact with the animal have received vaccinations," it added, saying that authorities are "taking measures designed to eliminate the source of the disease."

In July 2005, Moscow announced it had found around 10 cases of mad cow disease in four farms in Mordovia, in the eastern European area of Russia.

Mad cow disease is a fatal neurodegenerative disease of cattle. It was first recognized in Britain in the mid 1980s, and reached its peak in 1992 when 36,680 cases were confirmed, according to Britain's Department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (BEFRA).

In rare cases the disease can be transmissible to humans via contaminated beef.

Britain has recorded a total of 150 cases of the human form of mad cow, variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, and there have been 15 cases in France.

Last week a cow in easten France tested positive for the disease, the sixth case detected in the country this year. — AFP

http://www.todayonline.com/articles/149235.asp

>>>"The two people who had contact with the animal have received vaccinations," it added,<<<

right, wonder what that BSe was ??? probably some more vaccines made with bovine/ovine potential BSE source ;

CONFIDENTIAL BSE AND VACCINES 1989

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1989/09/06011001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1989/02/14010001.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/yb/1989/02/14011001.pdf

CORRECT AS OF 21ST SEPTEMBER 2006

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Medical Implants Containing Bovine Material

At SEAC 91 (February 2006) the Medicines and Healthcare products

Regulatory Agency (MHRA) asked the committee to consider the

potential BSE risks to humans from medical implants using bovine

material from the USA.

The regulations on medical devices containing animal materials are

based on the principle that TSE risks must be eliminated or reduced as

much as possible and residual risks must be acceptable when weighed

against the benefits to patients. Currently no guidance exists on the

acceptability of TSE risk control measures applied to animal material in

medical devices.

The MHRA requested advice on three 3 issues. (i) can TSE risk

associated with medical implants using USA sourced bovine material be

estimated given that it might vary over time? (ii) is there, or has there

been a significant risk that might warrant action in addition to that

already taken? (iii) can the standards that support the regulations be

altered to facilitate a consistent approach about the acceptability of

products?

The committee concluded that:

• a risk assessment should be conducted on each device because

of the large number of variables that influence associated TSE

risks.

Key factors which should be considered when assessing risks are:

• the animal source. Use of material from closed herds or from

herds that are managed carefully to prevent the introduction of

the BSE agent.

• use of material from young animals would markedly lower risk

compared with older animals.

• the geographical risk of BSE. The geographical BSE risk

status of a country gives an imprecise indication of BSE risk. It

would be better to use an estimated prevalence of BSE in a

country based on data from a robust surveillance system.

• the potential TSE infectivity of the source tissue(s) based on a

careful assessment of the available data on tissue infectivity.

CORRECT AS OF 21ST SEPTEMBER 2006

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• the site of implantation. Sites with contact with the blood supply

or CNS may increase risk.

• whether TSE testing is undertaken on the source animal(s).

• the number of source animals used for each device.

http://www.seac.gov.uk/pdf/issue_summary.pdf

Subject: BSE--U.S. 50 STATE CONFERENCE CALL Jan. 9, 2001
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:49:00 -0800
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
To: BSE-L@uni-karlsruhe.de

######### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
#########

Greetings List Members,

I was lucky enough to sit in on this BSE conference
call today and even managed to ask a question.
that is when the trouble started.

I submitted a version of my notes to
Sandra Blakeslee of the New York Times,
whom seemed very upset, and rightly
so.

"They tell me it is a closed meeting and
they will release whatever information
they deem fit. Rather infuriating."

and i would have been doing just fine,
until i asked my question. i was surprised
my time to ask a question so quick.

(understand, these are taken from my notes for now.
the spelling of names and such could be off.)

[host Richard Barns]
and now a question from Terry S. Singeltary of
CJD Watch.

[TSS]
yes, thank you,
U.S. cattle, what kind of guarantee can you
give for serum or tissue donor herds?

[no answer, you could hear in the back ground,
mumbling and 'we can't. have him ask the question
again.]

[host Richard]
could you repeat the question?

[TSS]
U.S. cattle, what kind of guarantee can you
give for serum or tissue donor herds?

[not sure whom ask this]
what group are you with?

[TSS]
CJD Watch, my Mom died from hvCJD and we are
tracking CJD world-wide.

[not sure who is speaking]
could you please disconnect Mr. Singeltary

[TSS]
you are not going to answer my question?

[not sure whom speaking]
NO

from this point, i was still connected, got to listen
and tape the whole conference. at one point someone
came on, a woman, and ask again;

[unknown woman]
what group are you with?

[TSS]
CJD Watch and my Mom died from hvCJD
we are trying to tract down CJD and other
human TSE's world wide. i was invited to
sit in on this from someone inside the USDA/APHIS
and that is why i am here. do you intend on banning
me from this conference now?

at this point the conference was turned back up,
and i got to finish listening. They never answered
or even addressed my one question, or even addressed
the issue. BUT, i will try and give you a run-down
for now, of the conference.

IF i were another Country, I would take heed to my
notes, BUT PLEASE do not depend on them. ask for
transcript from;

RBARNS@ORA.FDA.GOV
301-827-6906

he would be glad to give you one ;-)

Rockville Maryland,
Richard Barns Host

BSE issues in the U.S.,
How they were labelling ruminant feed?
Revising issues.

The conference opened up with the explaining of
the U.K. BSE epidemic winding down with about 30
cases a week.

although new cases in other countries were now
appearing.

Look at Germany whom said NO BSE and now have BSE.

BSE increasing across Europe.

Because of Temporary Ban on certain rendered product,
heightened interest in U.S.

A recent statement in Washington Post, said the
New Administration (old GW) has a list of issues.
BSE is one of the issues.

BSE Risk is still low, minimal in U.S. with a greater
interest in MBM not to enter U.S.

HOWEVER, if BSE were to enter the U.S.
it would be economically disastrous
to the render, feed, cattle, industries,
and for human health.

(human health-they just threw that in cause i was listening. I will now
jot down some figures in
which they told you, 'no need to write them down'.
just hope i have them correct. hmmm, maybe i hope
i don't ???)

SNIP...END...TSS

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